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Midwest HARP Festival. (Tulsa Ok.)

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I have been asked about my “Forest of Harps” pictures. Chiefly: “How, can such a collection of instruments possibly be assembled in one place?”…

 Well, here is the simple answer: 


:redalert: July 19-25 2015:redalert: 

 16 Annual International Midwest Harp Festival.A Forest of Harps: ladies in waiting by JWA2277……


Take some time; visit the week long events in this United States Midcontinent city of Tulsa Oklahoma.

  It is an event that should not be missed. Not only for the wide assortment and variation on instrument on display, but the verity of event and styles of music performed. Anything from classical Harp, to more modern music, to jazz, even light rock. The concerts are Inspiring, with a style and performances to fit every personal taste. In past concerts, the variations and arrangements put on display, which are capable on the instrument, are… stunning, to say the least. Traditionally harp music is soothing, and can bring peace to a weary soul, tender and a meditative joy. The variety of concerts and events during the festival are no exception. I have always found it to be peaceful and restful music. Even if you only have a passing interest, the concerts can have a surprising draw.

 Also: for of those who want more, the event is also a summer camp; a week long training program for those wanting to learn how to play and enhance their talents on the harp. The presenters, staff, teachers, and support teams are always willing to answer questions and give advice.

 For more information, enroll in classes, event times and ticket information:
see official contacts.

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... Saturated FOOD for THOUGHTS ...

Always something new here ... We edit as we hop along!


:bulletpink: NOT for the faint of heart: Scepticism and Revisionism: Taboga & Luchesi controversy:… (feel free to ask questions regarding!) It may help clear up or discover a few things, probably shave off of *arranger* Joseph's opus extra 400 works too. Not to speak of the rest of the musical world ... Here's Haydn & Pleyel case, insight into copyright-pre-copyright:… See *New Grove Haydn* 2002 onwards for attributions, spurious or ''with his approval'' works, etc.:… ... Chill, this goes for many a composer - good to know! This group truly accepts ALL music(-related stuff)!

... With THIS hot topic taken care of ~ put on your wig and let's dig the gig! ;)

:bulletgreen: *In Search of Haydn* -…
(you'll need to install IP-changing program to watch if outside USA.)

:bulletgreen: Also BBC:…

:bulletgreen: 3SAT (in German language):…

:bulletgreen: Kids these days ... FAN! - documentary:…

:bulletgreen: ... PUPPET OPERAS! - ''Haydns Nacht'' can be bought at: *… or *…

:star: MUSEUMS and HOUSES: HaydnHaus Wien:… * HaydnHaus Eisenstadt: * Mike Haydn Society: * Mike Haydn Salzburg Museum:…

:bulletgreen: FORUMS, SOCIETIES: Haydnesque Forum:… * JH Great Britain: * North America www.haydnsocietyofnorthamerica… * Handel & Haydn Society: * Mike H: * 2009 Haydn BLOG:

:star: BooKs, INFO pages:

:bulletgreen: MICHAEL Haydn's SCORES, enter keywords at your convenience:…

:bulletgreen: A well of wisdom, history and knowledge: selection of Haydn's LETTERS (Eng.):… &… (82!!!)

:bulletgreen: Kenneth Woods Blog:… :heart:

:bulletgreen: Bits about the quartets:…

:bulletgreen: Haydn Database:…

:bulletgreen: Fine ''HAYDN STUDIES'' (& so on, just click the book covers, via Google books):… or *Search inside* ... & ''Haydn SYMPHONIES'', spurious or otherwise, by Landon:… (neat case-file! See also: Haydn: Chronicle and Works. If you find it.) Haydn & Classical Variation:…

:bulletgreen: Heaps of FREE books, scores and whatnot from……

:bulletgreen: Complete Jo Haydn bookography from OpenLibrary:…
and Mike Haydn:

:bulletgreen: Downloadable PDF: Joseph Haydn und sein Bruder Michael: zwei Bio-bibliographische Künstler-Skizzen:…

:bulletgreen: Downloadable PDF: Joseph Haydn's English Diary (1794-95):…

:bulletgreen: LISTS of compositions: MIKE:… JO:…

:bulletgreen: JO short BIO's:… &… &… MIKE's on Mozart forum:…

:star: Pretty close, albeit un-pockmarked likeness: Anton Grassi, cca 1799.

:star: SCORES and musical ARTICLES:

:bulletgreen: Article: Haydn-the-Yurodivy:…

:bulletgreen: Article: Haydn & Canon:…

:bulletgreen: Article: Haydn & Opera:…

:bulletgreen: Score: Canons from around the world:… (various composers, Hayd.& Moz.) JO's Canons (in handwriting):… list of:…

:bulletgreen: Mike H. Collection (small, *sob*):,…

:bulletgreen: Jo H. Collection (extensive, yay!):,… & list:…

:star: MUSIC:

:bulletgreen: Michael: (27 symphonies, Divertimento's, Serenade, 3X Masses, 2 Requiems, 4 concerts & misc.):…

:bulletgreen: Joseph (1165 files, so dig in!):…
He was NOT the ''father of symphony'' - Sammartini and others were:… Haydn learned/copied from them (as even the great CPE had considerable doubts into his own abilities - whether or not his works will reach the standard set for his listeners by GBS.)


:bulletpink: Fun ;) and eerie :fuzzydemon: ANECDOTES:

;) Jo Haydn and Wolf Mozart had TWIN pianos.

;) Bursting a bubble: the way I heard it growing up:…

;) Somehow, Jo got credited with 240 + symphonies. Of which he ''only'' wrote about 106.

;) Michael Haydn DETESTED plagiarism; as a young boy he founded society which detected nicking of themes, melodies & music by other composers - he demanded Original Creativity = a trademark throughout his life. The ONE article that explores possibility of Haydn recanting, is:…
~ And, when push comes to shove =P I found J. A. Hasse's Requiem from 1763, second 1 minute long bit. Short, but essentially the same - Michael's Req-in-C sequence. Gotcha!

:fuzzydemon: TWO in one go - pardon - grave: Maria Anna (Marianne, Nannerl) Mozart and Mike Haydn share the SAME *six-feet-under*:… which may imply they were musical colleagues and equals. Due to a fellow who wanted to study the ''musical bump'' on Jo's head, mausoleum now holds TWO skulls: his & ''fake''…. Curiously, Mike too got parted with his head; deeply grieving widow asked for permission to nick & clean it: she then kept her husband's skull right at her side - on the night stand (it was put in the urn on top of the monument erected in his memory - now it's under lock and key in a safe), while his :heart: heart is kept separately in a shrine in St. Peter's Churchyard Cemetery in Salzburg. He was much loved and, despite ''excessive wine (and beer and ...) episodes and a musical style that was never far from a tavern or a dance hall'' (really, a waltz in a mass?!! - COOL!) - RESPECTED (so that's why his bits are scattered all over the place! Must be a good luck charm.)

:bulletpink: Did-You-Know's:

- That around 1780, newly written Church edict demanded that the church music should be from then on composed in entirely simple manner (no fugues, no huge orchestra, ah, life of a Kapellmeister had to suck big time ... *snores*)

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:bulletblue: Nicely formed, witty and elegant. ... Rollin'& chillin'!!! Group is broadly based, thanks for stopping by!:wave:

:iconmusicnotesplz::iconchampagneplz:... Now that we got your attention :D

- a cheerful group of cosy proportions, dedicated to bubbly brothers

:empllama:JOSEPH and MICHAEL -- HAYDN:emplllama:

HAYD'N ... seek by DarkSaxeBleu ... The OTHER ... Haydn by DarkSaxeBleu

... :rose: (who do not only ''share'' in the *AWESOME* - but EACH ADDS EXTRA to it!)

... With heaps of other pickled Curiosities! :jarkinajar: (Feel FREE to suggest them!)

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While tipsy Michael, admired & frequently copied :squee: by Mozart,

retained his dignity & cool with awesome FUGUES and major SACRAL works,

frisky Joseph, true to the Form, Logic and Balance -

wrote jolly gorgeous! concertos for *HURDY-GURDY* =P

and Operas for Prince Nikolaus' *PUPPET* theatre.

* ... Cricket sound ... * :lol: :bulletgreen:… :iconkermityayplz:
(... Here's a hint: if it sounds ridiculous:icontrollfaceplz:- it probably is;

Jo's frequently using irony; making ACID jokes and poking fun out of his audience; after all,

writing music-to-order can be rather depressing, especially in a mosquito ridden swamp

combined with shortage of desirable women. Oh, the tragedy. :nuu:)


While Mikey was pretty much dignified, stuck in his own demanding stylish branch,

after all - he had to live up to the ultra-prominent position of Konzertmeister (etc.) in Salzburg -

mostly autodidactic Jo had a bit of a bug up his aR$€ during the creative period

and looked everywhere (chiefly in himself) for new expressions in music -

seriously: stuck in a bog, :hexentanz: bored out of his mind :snowing: - was bound to invent Classicism. :music:

Q: What about Sammartini?!!
A: ... OK - it was a joined effort ;)


Even the tougher amongst us succumb to their Charm and good will.

Albeit - most cheerful people are sometimes the saddest ... :rose:


:headbang: :iconboo-plz: *Perpetually serene* Mike sends goosebumps & chills and makes blood curdle :flame:

with REQUIEM in C (y. 1771): :rose:…
and all power to him for writing GREAT :#1: string quintets and various other wooing compositions

including fun but nasty :poo: little canon… =P - which only shows that

despite reaching for the heights, we are still most earthly beings -
:iconiheartitplz: Jo's down-to-earth Wisdom rivals every first class philosopher: :rose:…

''Wein, Bad und Liebe soll dem Leben schädlich
sein; doch wird das Leben frisch durch Liebe, Bad und Wein.''

(* Wine, bath and love should be harmful to life;
but life becomes fresh by love, bath and wine - YES! *)
''... Depict Divinity through love and goodness'' :iconspreadmoreloveplz::iconstudmuffinplz:

- From ecstatic Joy to Tears -
- In a Twinkle of a phrase! -- Haydn brothers :heart: heartfelt MAGIC. - BRILLIANT! :love: Peace.


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1.1) respect the admins and members;

harsh language & bad manners shall not be tolerated.


NOTE #1: FOLDERS. Regarding style and era - one can't put music into shoe boxes
- always too great a mix; of traditions, of influences ...
However, there has to be some kind of order =P so that we find artworks we're looking for!

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belianis Featured By Owner Sep 26, 2015  Professional Traditional Artist
Speaking of, one of its most interesting contributors is UnsungMasterworks, a guy who posts symphonies and other works by unknown contemporaries of Wagner, Brahms, and R Strauss.
Which have impressed you favorably? I have already listened to all the symphonies of Enescu and Raff, plus several people who strike me as basically competent but unoriginal imitators of their contemporaries who are a part of the regular repertoire. There is a Russian, Kalinnikov, whose 1st Symphony has been performed by the Mustelids in an evening program dedicated to masterpieces--undeservedly, in my opinion, since said piece is no more than what you would expect from a contemporary of Chaikovsky and Rimsky-Korsakov.
DarkSaxeBleu Featured By Owner Sep 27, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
Interesting thoughts! :D Music from same time/place tends to sound similar, no harm in that ;) At least we can hear where the ''divine inspiration'' came from! Did Berlioz ? voice his concerns against Clara Schumann, saying that her music is basically her husband's?! :) I think we expect too much from composers, originality of style and all that, an expectation completely out of all reality (we've inherited the 19th century view on originality and invention.) Music would really sound completely original had we had Baroque music - and skipped Classicism and Romanticism - straight to Berg. So a continuity is really a good thing, nothing to be too strictly judgemental about! :D If there be no predecessors, there be no heirs.

For example, what Beethoven did in, which one was it, Coriolan, Egmont? - has a similar feeling and style - to what Salieri did in overture some 18-23 years earlier in Catilina (1792) and mixed with Les Danaides (1784) overture approach (slow intro and so forth.) Yet Beethoven's overtures are a standard for any serious conductor while Salieri's, to beethovenian ears, ''fail to deliver'' or whatnot. But, you know, it was Beethoven who diligently studied not only with Salieri - but also Salieri's Les Danaides and copied passages from it with his own hand ... Then we can have a regression about where Salieri got it all from and so forth, similar styles (and structures) of overture have been around since his Armida (1771 ~ when Luigi was a couple of moths old =P) and I'm perfectly willing to bet he was far from the first to have used it. But without such knowledge - we would not have exactly such Beethoven ... So either everything is guilty of breaking a status of originality - or each work has something to deliver and is ''worthy'' of one's time and study for the difference - or similarity - it brought to the world. 

Since you have a keen ear, I wonder if you'd be up for a participation? It's a project my friend and I (though mostly I ;)) have worked on in the past year and any experience counts ... The title says it all, but what I'm interested in is - well, any feedback, about the project, music, ... (We've developed quite a couple of viewpoints and every view counts! Will send you the link through the note.)

... 19th century is not a period I generally enjoy, it's a bit overwhelming - but there are a few I find interesting:

Lekeu and later Mompou, ...……
MonsieF Featured By Owner Sep 18, 2015  Student General Artist
Thank you so much for the request, I really appreciate it!! ^__^
DarkSaxeBleu Featured By Owner Sep 20, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
You're welcome! :rose: Thank you for your art! :star:
belianis Featured By Owner Sep 3, 2015  Professional Traditional Artist
The mustelids of WSMR-FM, Sarasota, FL, are very skittish about the more eccentric music of the 20th century. They play Vivaldi several times every day, but fellow Italian Dallapiccola has been featured exactly ONCE in the more than ten years that I have listened to that station, and the piece they played was so conventional and unoriginal that it's obvious it was chosen to discourage any further interest in the son of Pisino. This year they have played Webern three times, but it was all juvenilia from the time that he sounded like an imitation of Richard Strauss. I can understand being skittish about Herr Anton--his mature pieces are extremely unpleasant--, but, that being the case, why bother with him at all?
They do play people like Arvo Part quite frequently, but that only illustrates their perplexing habit of playing some modern authors to excess, and totally neglecting others, such as Messiaen, whom they have never played. How do you think these Weasels, Skunks, Mustelids, Rodents, Ferrets, and Martens figure out which modernist composers are safe and respectable, and which others are beyond the pale?
Sincerely yours,
a very puzzled Belianis
DarkSaxeBleu Featured By Owner Edited Sep 5, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
Well, maybe they're paid off by Mafia! :) Good question though, I've noticed that mainstream ''artsy'' media =reporters and critics = elevate some and completely mash into dirt the others simply because they're unwilling to try to understand what musicians are trying to achieve. So, juvenile, imitations, superiority, taste, etc. - these words tell nothing of music itself, I can't hear it through these words. Why judge via using the system values - when one can explain things differently, non derogatory? It's one thing to try to understand history of music, people and works - and the other to construct an imaginary pyramid of values related to these. Then similar, like with media coverage and their scoring system when they decide on what to report so that news will sell or any other structure like how to build a personality or in politics - what's on top is not ''above all else'' and ''superior'' - but derives from everything else. The path is in reverse and all elements are connected and, without prejudice, equal in value. The pyramid, which we have learned to respect and blindly worship, is no more and a Universe opens. To what degree people show interest in it, well, call it personal traits or education or conditioning. We always approach everything we meet in life - though our own optics and vibes, it's kinda tough to do it in a non-I way. So, that radio station has its own program and system of values. Some people live by these, you can't blame them, not in this age of relatively free internet and diversity. Doesn't mean Vivaldi's music is any the worse for it, cheers for it being played! But you too are not limited to just that station ...

There's an infestation of snobbery on all sides in music, even amongst heavy metal fans ~ think we all should be on the look-out for it!
Heck, even I'm sometimes guilty of it ;P

... Belianis, why not just change the station every once in a while?! :D… (click *Listen* and it will forward you to 365)
And a whole bunch of them, some very narrowly formed:
I also recommend YouTube!!! :iconrotflplz:…

What I miss when listening to these, is bits of historical information to boot.
''We've just heard .... written in .... composition used such and such techniques .... this bunch of people too experimented with them .... More info here ....''
You know, something to compare it all to! Do they presuppose that we all know this stuff already?! Still, at least htey allow music to speak for itself - which is probably the best way.

I think the key is in attitude of worshipping: the object of worship needs no comparison ~

as it's No.1 by default ...

''So,'' says an Incidental Radio Station, ''why bother with anything else?'' =P
belianis Featured By Owner Sep 8, 2015  Professional Traditional Artist
Thanks for your kind reply and for the links, which are very appreciated.
It certainly makes one proud of himself to appreciate something because one actually knows it, and not because others have made up your opinion for you.
DarkSaxeBleu Featured By Owner Edited Sep 8, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
Be A Candle in Someone's Life Thank you for your clever comments and questions! :star: It's very important that we're open to all sorts of things - and to, ultimately, be quite busy figuring stuff out by and for ourselves as well! 
calligraphyartworks Featured By Owner Aug 28, 2015  Student Traditional Artist
Thank you for the request for my work here in the group gallery. I am most honored!
DarkSaxeBleu Featured By Owner Sep 2, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
You're welcome! :rose: Thank you kindly for approving the request! :sun:
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