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How do you like Jan Dismas Zelenka? I have been listening to his choral music on YOUTUBE, and I would say that it compares well to that of JS Bach and Handel.
How do you like Jan Dismas Zelenka? I have been listening to his choral music on YOUTUBE, and I would say that it compares well to that of JS Bach and Handel.
I know an organist in NY whom you would definitely not like. Even though he is successful in his profession and plays a huge variety of music--from the Renaissance to the 21st century--, mentally he is stuck in the 19th century, when Baroque was only JS Bach and Handel, and Classical was exclusively FJ Haydn and Mozart.
How do you account for someone from the 21st century having such huge narrow blinders?
How do you account for someone from the 21st century having such huge narrow blinders?
Well, about two years ago in a CD store
I saw about 50 years old man with brilliantine on his longish raven black hair who had a Mozart t-shirt, Mozart neck tie, Mozart jacket, Mozart wallet and a Mozart plastic bag.
... I just wondered where he got a Mozart plastic bag ...
What is freedom for one
is a prison to another.
I saw about 50 years old man with brilliantine on his longish raven black hair who had a Mozart t-shirt, Mozart neck tie, Mozart jacket, Mozart wallet and a Mozart plastic bag.
... I just wondered where he got a Mozart plastic bag ...
What is freedom for one
is a prison to another.
That IS dedication!
Spaking of musicians from the past, which would you like to invite to your home for dinner? In addition to WAM and the H brothers, I would love to meet Poulenc. His biography, his portraits, and certainly his music suggest that Monsieur Francis was a friendly approachable man with a very winning personality.
Spaking of musicians from the past, which would you like to invite to your home for dinner? In addition to WAM and the H brothers, I would love to meet Poulenc. His biography, his portraits, and certainly his music suggest that Monsieur Francis was a friendly approachable man with a very winning personality.
Ahaha! Another sort of list then?! A dinner-list?!
So, if music - and with it the musicians - are a way of how we are, through these very conduits, connected to the world and people around us ...
Well, FINE!!!! Here's *a* list ...
But
I wouldn't invite them -
THEY would invite ME!
Aaaaaannnnddd ....
First on the chopping block are
Benedetto and Rosanna Marcello:
they both broke tight social norms and Benedetto seems to have been a funky theoretician
so I have to wonder how he'd match up to Grétry, whose opera scores are often ... messy. Anyway, Kapellmeister and Writer, Modeste Grétry, who is literally the last person to ever claim perfection of his scores, would have to be invited to the party as well! ... If only to give KUDOS! to some of Marcello's points! 
Then Michael Haydn - but only because he'd introduce me to goodly and quirky brother Aumann and his famous wine cellar!
Then, properly lubricated, surely we'd manage
a smooth terzetto or two!
Wouldn't mind meeting Mozart -
but only so I could confirm his facial and other features are a perfect match to
NISSEN'S!!! 
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Frankly, listening to his rants about how ''ordinary, unfashionable, mediocre, etc.'' everybody but himself are - would be, oh, so tedious - unless he'd have a very interesting meow to share - I'd quickly get out of that lunch-date by saying I just caught the measles.
... And would later in the evening (after a proper, candle-lit dinner and a bottle of bubbly) do all in my power to persuade Cherubini, who would of course disagree heartily that a Muse could ever be so rude as to make a choice regarding who is granted ''a gift'' of music and who supposedly isn't - to write a canon, based on the verse:
The Muse has made me a Conferee:
Musicians' Life for me, for ME!
He'd bonk me over the head with a really heavy mallet - and enjoy it!
... And I would treasure this experience forever.
Mondonville has a captivating smile, so what's that all about, definitely a mystery that has to be solved - and Salieri ... Him I'd just adopt.
As a teacher and otherwise.
Put him in my pocket and take him out for a chat whenever I'd feel my ''musicological entitlement'' growing out of all proportion: Nc, nc, my dear DSB: Varietá, varietá ... That and his books of Canons and La Scuola di Canto, ach, what fun!
Right now, prepping the nerves for another dose of Gossec www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vnb-Iy… since he was - what, about a 100 when he died? - he'd surely have many interesting Parisiangossips stories to tell!
Also adding Kapellmeisters Albrechtsberger, Righini and Sarti to the list - and Kozłowski, Sartorio - he's one of rare few people who understands what myth of Orfeo is really about:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pirIW…
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hg6Zb-…
www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdFmyX…
www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdTnsb…
and it's not what we usually think ...
Then L. Vizzana, just to give her some moral support and a historical smack to anybody who'd dare to hold her back, Almeida, Nietzsche (and who wouldn't want to share a coffee with Nietzsche? Separate mugs, of course), Pancrace Royer, Duphly, Caldara -
and the folks with excellent and uplifting sense of humour, like
www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBW1-K…
www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEirKB…
oh - and La Monte Young (surprisingly, him I actually still have a chance with 
... La Monte, Sir, ... ... CALL ME, BABY!)
Then Weelkes (wasn't he the drunken organist who peed on his boss? How woolywonderful to be remembered by one's F..Y.. moxie and large intake of distilled aqua vitae, definitely a dinner-table quantity-challenge right there! But I'm nearly certain he had other qualities too.)
Padovano www.youtube.com/watch?v=wumLjV… and Hasse, purely for his marvellous sanity of criticism and insight into human mind, Porpora - his poetry currently seems to be out of reach, *le sigh*, Rameau, Lully, Piccinni, Paisiello, Galuppi, G.&G. Sammartini, Clementi
- but you know what,
making lists SUCKS!
How can we choose a few people to imaginarily dine with -
when there's so excellently and excruciatingly MANY?!?!?!?!!! (Thank goodness that, when other circumstances are truly favourable, one can eat a lot in life.)
Besides, I have a few composer friends here on DA who definitely come to mind!
However, here are A FEW I'd not be enthusiastic about meeting - but wouldn't mind if we did bump at each other in a village pub, each at our very-separate table:
- Mahler. ... He's a Legion.
And here are few I'd rather and with all the horse-power I can muster
- avoid, partially because there's just no way we'd hit it off and my personal time on Earth is too precious for failed relationships:
Gesualdo, Gombert, Reutter Jr., Britten, Chopin, Berlioz, Wagner, JS Bach, Leopold Mozart
and John Williams. ... The latter, I'm sure, is proud to be in such very fine company.
... There! Not one, not two - but THREE lists! Hope these will do.
So, if music - and with it the musicians - are a way of how we are, through these very conduits, connected to the world and people around us ...
Well, FINE!!!! Here's *a* list ...
But
I wouldn't invite them -
THEY would invite ME!
Aaaaaannnnddd ....
First on the chopping block are Benedetto and Rosanna Marcello:
they both broke tight social norms and Benedetto seems to have been a funky theoretician
so I have to wonder how he'd match up to Grétry, whose opera scores are often ... messy. Anyway, Kapellmeister and Writer, Modeste Grétry, who is literally the last person to ever claim perfection of his scores, would have to be invited to the party as well! ... If only to give KUDOS! to some of Marcello's points! Then Michael Haydn - but only because he'd introduce me to goodly and quirky brother Aumann and his famous wine cellar!
Then, properly lubricated, surely we'd manage a smooth terzetto or two!
Wouldn't mind meeting Mozart -
but only so I could confirm his facial and other features are a perfect match to
NISSEN'S!!! Frankly, listening to his rants about how ''ordinary, unfashionable, mediocre, etc.'' everybody but himself are - would be, oh, so tedious - unless he'd have a very interesting meow to share - I'd quickly get out of that lunch-date by saying I just caught the measles.
... And would later in the evening (after a proper, candle-lit dinner and a bottle of bubbly) do all in my power to persuade Cherubini, who would of course disagree heartily that a Muse could ever be so rude as to make a choice regarding who is granted ''a gift'' of music and who supposedly isn't - to write a canon, based on the verse:
The Muse has made me a Conferee:
Musicians' Life for me, for ME!
He'd bonk me over the head with a really heavy mallet - and enjoy it!
... And I would treasure this experience forever.
Mondonville has a captivating smile, so what's that all about, definitely a mystery that has to be solved - and Salieri ... Him I'd just adopt.
As a teacher and otherwise.Put him in my pocket and take him out for a chat whenever I'd feel my ''musicological entitlement'' growing out of all proportion: Nc, nc, my dear DSB: Varietá, varietá ... That and his books of Canons and La Scuola di Canto, ach, what fun!
Right now, prepping the nerves for another dose of Gossec www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vnb-Iy… since he was - what, about a 100 when he died? - he'd surely have many interesting Parisian
Also adding Kapellmeisters Albrechtsberger, Righini and Sarti to the list - and Kozłowski, Sartorio - he's one of rare few people who understands what myth of Orfeo is really about:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pirIW…
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hg6Zb-…
www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdFmyX…
www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdTnsb…
and it's not what we usually think ...
Then L. Vizzana, just to give her some moral support and a historical smack to anybody who'd dare to hold her back, Almeida, Nietzsche (and who wouldn't want to share a coffee with Nietzsche? Separate mugs, of course), Pancrace Royer, Duphly, Caldara -
and the folks with excellent and uplifting sense of humour, like
www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBW1-K…
www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEirKB…
oh - and La Monte Young
(surprisingly, him I actually still have a chance with ... La Monte, Sir, ... ... CALL ME, BABY!
) Then Weelkes (wasn't he the drunken organist who peed on his boss? How woolywonderful to be remembered by one's F..Y.. moxie and large intake of distilled aqua vitae, definitely a dinner-table quantity-challenge right there! But I'm nearly certain he had other qualities too.)
Padovano www.youtube.com/watch?v=wumLjV… and Hasse, purely for his marvellous sanity of criticism and insight into human mind, Porpora - his poetry currently seems to be out of reach, *le sigh*, Rameau, Lully, Piccinni, Paisiello, Galuppi, G.&G. Sammartini, Clementi
- but you know what,
making lists SUCKS!
How can we choose a few people to imaginarily dine with -
when there's so excellently and excruciatingly MANY?!?!?!?!!! (Thank goodness that, when other circumstances are truly favourable, one can eat a lot in life.)
Besides, I have a few composer friends here on DA
who definitely come to mind! However, here are A FEW I'd not be enthusiastic about meeting - but wouldn't mind if we did bump at each other in a village pub, each at our very-separate table: - Mahler. ... He's a Legion.
And here are few I'd rather and with all the horse-power I can muster- avoid, partially because there's just no way we'd hit it off and my personal time on Earth is too precious for failed relationships:
Gesualdo, Gombert, Reutter Jr., Britten, Chopin, Berlioz, Wagner, JS Bach, Leopold Mozart
and John Williams. ... The latter, I'm sure, is proud to be in such very fine company.
... There! Not one, not two - but THREE lists!
Hope these will do.Hola.
You know that I have contributed a list of Ten Bs and ditto Ss, plus Six Ms, Two Es and ditto Fs. I had the goal of compiling a full alphabet of greats, but I don't have the erudition for such a demanding task; for ex., Dufay and Dvorak are obviously greats, but Delibes and Delius are nothing but second raters who don't deserve the fame that they enjoy, so who should accompany Guillaume and Antonin instead?
Do you know of anybody who has accomplished this magnificent task, please?
You know that I have contributed a list of Ten Bs and ditto Ss, plus Six Ms, Two Es and ditto Fs. I had the goal of compiling a full alphabet of greats, but I don't have the erudition for such a demanding task; for ex., Dufay and Dvorak are obviously greats, but Delibes and Delius are nothing but second raters who don't deserve the fame that they enjoy, so who should accompany Guillaume and Antonin instead?
Do you know of anybody who has accomplished this magnificent task, please?
Sorry, can't help you there; I don't separate musicians into greats and second-rates. This is a 19th century notion (born out of nationalism and propaganda) and for me it's wrong, mightily obsolete and very disrespectful - therefore I can't abide by it nor uphold it.
Speaking of the lists, I only ever made one, and that's to keep a track on the names and the overall number of composers I've touched. Haven't updated it in a year or so now, but it is still growing and has about 700 names on it - while each IS its own music. In terms of physics - all is music - we're literally made of music - and
... I respect that.
Therefore I make zero demands of the composers;
they are not bound or obliged to please me -
I'm free to understand, explore and respect their music.
What a wonderful, mind-opening liberty for all that is.
Speaking of the lists, I only ever made one, and that's to keep a track on the names and the overall number of composers I've touched. Haven't updated it in a year or so now, but it is still growing and has about 700 names on it - while each IS its own music. In terms of physics - all is music - we're literally made of music - and
... I respect that.
Therefore I make zero demands of the composers;
they are not bound or obliged to please me -
I'm free to understand, explore and respect their music.
What a wonderful, mind-opening liberty for all that is.